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Freemason Concoction
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Freemason Concoction
Personally, I believe that the Maybrick diary was written in the 1980's and was an invention of the Freemasons in order to begin making money from the Ripper murders. Before this time, all Ripper books and materials were written by reporters, independent researchers and police officials. Since Michael Maybrick was a well-known Freemason, and Florence Maybrick was bailed out of prison by the Freemasons, the Freemasons could have then used her for information about James in return. Then they formulated a plan to write a fake diary from "Jack the Ripper," which was very clearly written by a person who had access to newspaper reports on the murders. I consider it the very first "Buchan" book - a term that I use to describe a recent episode of the London series "Whitechapel," in which the character, Buchan, is forced to write Ripper books for Ripperologists in order to make money. Here is a picture of Edward Buchan from the series, "Whitechapel."
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I understand what you mean.
However "The Lodger", published in 1913, saw three movies based on it alone by 1953.
The prequel,Jekyll and Hyde,had numerous versions.Including the 1888 stage adaptation that was the catalyst of the five murders.
However "The Lodger", published in 1913, saw three movies based on it alone by 1953.
The prequel,Jekyll and Hyde,had numerous versions.Including the 1888 stage adaptation that was the catalyst of the five murders.
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Investigating anti-Diary research, I think you would agree, highlights some of the faulty research foisted on the public by Ripperologists. It doesn't matter whether or not their conclusion is correct. Faulty research and reasoning puts all their conclusions in doubt if they weren't already.
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The main problem with that "diary" is that even the device sometimes accredited to "Sir" Thomas Crapper would not find it acceptable.
Incidentally,I enjoyed "Whitechapel" on TV and purchased the second series.
It remains unwatched.
Currently compiling the third series on PVR.It is yet to finish on Oz TV.
Enjoyed three episodes of "Ripper Street". Will savor the remainder when I am up to it.
The initial script reading of Gene's TV series was a great success yesterday.Another is scheduled for March.
Established screenwriter and industry teacher, Ray Mooney, was excited.
The producer of Russell Crowe's fifth movie remains interested in a big screen version.
A revised draft was sent to me over three and a half hours ago.I'd best attend to it.
Once this succeeds,we can progress to "Jack the Ripper;The Truth".
Incidentally,I enjoyed "Whitechapel" on TV and purchased the second series.
It remains unwatched.
Currently compiling the third series on PVR.It is yet to finish on Oz TV.
Enjoyed three episodes of "Ripper Street". Will savor the remainder when I am up to it.
The initial script reading of Gene's TV series was a great success yesterday.Another is scheduled for March.
Established screenwriter and industry teacher, Ray Mooney, was excited.
The producer of Russell Crowe's fifth movie remains interested in a big screen version.
A revised draft was sent to me over three and a half hours ago.I'd best attend to it.
Once this succeeds,we can progress to "Jack the Ripper;The Truth".
Mr Hyde- Posts : 174
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Will you be going public with your suspect?
It might at least help you get publicity, even if it is negative, from Ripperologists.
Although to be a hit movie, I think you probably need attract about 7 percent to the theatres. Ripperologists or people interested in the Ripper amount to less than 1 percent of .1 percent.
As proof, I was convinced in 94 by the Diary book and didn't know there was still an ongoing 'Ripper mystery', until the Cornwell book came out. That's 8 years without coming across anything in the media about Jack.
There was an upsurge lately only thanks to Cornwell and From Hell.
It might at least help you get publicity, even if it is negative, from Ripperologists.
Although to be a hit movie, I think you probably need attract about 7 percent to the theatres. Ripperologists or people interested in the Ripper amount to less than 1 percent of .1 percent.
As proof, I was convinced in 94 by the Diary book and didn't know there was still an ongoing 'Ripper mystery', until the Cornwell book came out. That's 8 years without coming across anything in the media about Jack.
There was an upsurge lately only thanks to Cornwell and From Hell.
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I wont be.
Not fussed about Ripperologists. Jane Coram would be a rare exception. Doubt Karen likes the term.Solidarity!
The studio/distributor may spend up to $65 million dollars promoting the film.
They may have some idea what they are doing.
Then again,look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_(film)
Most people know zip about Jack. Oddly the "collective unconscious" is not far from the truth.
Whitechapel and Ripper Street are doing OK.
I know of at least three film projects that have not been green lighted.
Patricia Cornwell is a spunk.I like younger women.ROFL! Last girlfriend was bi polar.
My project will stand on it's own feet.Not fussed about "opposition",as there isn't any.
The two TV series are maintaining interest.I like them!
Not fussed about Ripperologists. Jane Coram would be a rare exception. Doubt Karen likes the term.Solidarity!
The studio/distributor may spend up to $65 million dollars promoting the film.
They may have some idea what they are doing.
Then again,look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_(film)
Most people know zip about Jack. Oddly the "collective unconscious" is not far from the truth.
Whitechapel and Ripper Street are doing OK.
I know of at least three film projects that have not been green lighted.
Patricia Cornwell is a spunk.I like younger women.ROFL! Last girlfriend was bi polar.
My project will stand on it's own feet.Not fussed about "opposition",as there isn't any.
The two TV series are maintaining interest.I like them!
Mr Hyde- Posts : 174
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Karen,
Why do you think this 'Maybrick Diary' is a hoax and the 'Abberline Diary" is real?
I don't know a thing about the AD except that it was in the Ripper book by McCormick.
Why do you think this 'Maybrick Diary' is a hoax and the 'Abberline Diary" is real?
I don't know a thing about the AD except that it was in the Ripper book by McCormick.
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What did "The Maybrick Case","George Chapman" and the "Pimlico Mystery" all have in common?
Mr Hyde- Posts : 174
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Simply put, the Maybrick diary was written by Freemasons in order to profit from the Ripper murders; but, the Abberline Diary was written about Freemasonry. Abberline clearly showed an interest in the Freemasons and wished to learn all he could about them.
The Abberline diary was not just in McCormack's book, it was also in Melvyn Fairclough's book, "The Ripper and the Royals."
The Abberline diary was not just in McCormack's book, it was also in Melvyn Fairclough's book, "The Ripper and the Royals."
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Mr Hyde wrote:What did "The Maybrick Case","George Chapman" and the "Pimlico Mystery" all have in common?
Poison? And a dead spouse?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimlico_Mystery
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Dr. Thomas Stevenson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Stevenson_(toxicologist)
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stevenson-2003
He also worked on the Dr. Thomas Neil Cream case. Along with Maybrick and Chapman, that makes three Ripper suspects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Stevenson_(toxicologist)
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stevenson-2003
He also worked on the Dr. Thomas Neil Cream case. Along with Maybrick and Chapman, that makes three Ripper suspects.
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Jack probably parted company from a meeting they both attended, before he turned up late for his appointment with Liz Stride at the club.
There was more than one reason for being on the "other" side of Whitechapel Street.
There was more than one reason for being on the "other" side of Whitechapel Street.
Mr Hyde- Posts : 174
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Seriously? Where is your is documentation or reason for this theory?
Warrior1256- Posts : 9
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Thought a movie on what really happened might be worthwhile.
Did my own research and have known Jack the Ripper's identity for over 7 years.
You will just have to wait,like most others.
At least,here you have the opportunity to gain some insight into what "Ripperlogists" have been unable to fathom for over 120 years.......you are obviously too lazy,stupid and arrogant too even look through the threads.
Did my own research and have known Jack the Ripper's identity for over 7 years.
You will just have to wait,like most others.
At least,here you have the opportunity to gain some insight into what "Ripperlogists" have been unable to fathom for over 120 years.......you are obviously too lazy,stupid and arrogant too even look through the threads.
Mr Hyde- Posts : 174
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Mr Hyde,
Do you believe it to be an old hoax too, like Karen?
Are you interested in finding some sort of link between Maybrick and the Ripper crimes that would lead to the identity of a forger?
I think there might be another link and they should all be investigated because an old forger would have to be "in the know".
What about your toxicologist? In the know?
Do you believe it to be an old hoax too, like Karen?
Are you interested in finding some sort of link between Maybrick and the Ripper crimes that would lead to the identity of a forger?
I think there might be another link and they should all be investigated because an old forger would have to be "in the know".
What about your toxicologist? In the know?
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Not that old a hoax,nonetheless,a hoax.
Just out to make money.
Just out to make money.
Mr Hyde- Posts : 174
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The modern forgery theory goes against the science that says the Diary is an old document, but science can be faked.
Old hoax theory makes no sense at all, unless you believe it's a "Freemason concoction". That, at least, would link the Maybrick and Ripper stories.
In conjunction with Michael Maybrick's association with the Freemasons, I think the Mary Jane Kelly from Liverpool, linked to Thrawl St. and the City Missionary, would be another way to link the Maybrick's Liverpool and the Ripper's London.
Old hoax theory makes no sense at all, unless you believe it's a "Freemason concoction". That, at least, would link the Maybrick and Ripper stories.
In conjunction with Michael Maybrick's association with the Freemasons, I think the Mary Jane Kelly from Liverpool, linked to Thrawl St. and the City Missionary, would be another way to link the Maybrick's Liverpool and the Ripper's London.
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Strongly suspect our Mary Kelly was a local.
Jack was prolly linked to just about everyone....except Maybrick
Bedlam,I tells ya!
Jack was prolly linked to just about everyone....except Maybrick
Bedlam,I tells ya!
Mr Hyde- Posts : 174
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I would ask you who, in the 80s, would have made the link to Maybrick, but I myself was well on my way to Maybrick at the time too. You just need to follow the Masonic theories and believe the letter M is significant.
I remember looking for names in British history with an M but giving up after one index or two and then working on something else.
I remember looking for names in British history with an M but giving up after one index or two and then working on something else.
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