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The Curse of Oak Island
Is anyone here keeping up with the The Curse of Oak Island on History Channel?
Season 2 just finished up with some amazing discoveries of possible treasure vaults, including what looks like the original money pit chamber.
The team is returning this spring to find out what, if anything, is in them.
http://www.history.ca/the-curse-of-oak-island/
Season 2 just finished up with some amazing discoveries of possible treasure vaults, including what looks like the original money pit chamber.
The team is returning this spring to find out what, if anything, is in them.
http://www.history.ca/the-curse-of-oak-island/
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Re: The Curse of Oak Island
They're saying they found a Roman sword in the water off the island or someone brought it to them claiming it was found on a wreck off the island.
The brothers are saying they'll be back again next year to continue searching.
The brothers are saying they'll be back again next year to continue searching.
Saponarolla- Posts : 50
Re: The Curse of Oak Island
The sword was a fake post 1880 made of brass.
Jack the Ripper's knife perhaps?
Jack the Ripper's knife perhaps?
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Re: The Curse of Oak Island
Holy Grail Blog
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Sickertcode said:
Keith,
I’ve looked at your Google Earth image of Birch Island at the link you provided in the above post and I’ll say that the man-made impression looks more like a MITRE-SQUARE than it does a triangle. Take the coastline as the square. It’s a perfect right angle. With the triangle, it forms a perfect mitre-square symbol of the Masons visible from the air.
You really do have something there. Masons marking their territory, couldn’t resist using an island nearby with a right angle coastline.
M. Dericci said (to Keith):
Interesting to see that Birch Island is owned by CHRISTOPHER ONDAATJE, brother of Michael "English Patient" Ondaatje. The English Patient deals with archeologists in Egypt. Wasn’t the inscribed stone prophyry, which is found in Egypt, and was it really written in Egyptian-Coptic?....
P.S. I believe the treasure might be the so-called Morgenstern Inheritance. 36 tons of gold left in a secret location by sea captain Johannes Christoph Morgenstern. He died in 1762 with no heirs and his family has been trying to claim the Inheritance ever since and find out where it is located...
Jessica Melchiore, the antiques dealer turned Bloodline researcher from Vienna, read the comments and knew she recognized the author.
It was David. Both of them were from David; she was sure of it!
David Burton, the American thief she'd met in an international Alternate Reality Game. He was out of jail and was playing his little games, using different identities, Sickertcode and M. Dericci, different avatars. As always, he was looking for treasure wherever he could find it and he was always looking for an angle.
She wanted to see him again because he had been the one who had found out that the father of the secret, illegitimate Mary Jane Kelly bloodline was Adrianus Morgenstern.
She wanted to see him again and congratulate him for finding the father, and ask him if he did it for her.
But she needed to be careful because she had betrayed him when he was arrested, left him high and dry. She couldn't let him know it was her until they could meet face to face.
So she followed him online and looked for an opening which she eventually found on an Oak Island forum.
Someone with the username Ironside was on the forum talking about working with someone named "Keith", probably the same Keith whom Dave wrote to on the Grail Blog comments.
It was in the form of a Dear Diary. It was one of his little games.
Two could play at that game.
Oak Island Forum
Recommended Reading
My Davinci Code Diary
by Ironside
Entry #40
Marco and I went for Chinese food. All he could talk about was how the Chinese arrived in Cape Breton before Columbus. When I opened my fortune cookie, it said,
"A routine activity will lead to an enchanting adventure". Fat chance!
Entry #42
Marco bought that scrubby island without telling me. I only found out when a letter arrived today from a man named Kieth Nolan (name changed) who wanted to take soil samples on the island.
Marco says the island will make a great island getaway. I should give it a chance. Maybe this will be my "enchanting adventure".
Entry #43
The fortune cookie might have been right but not the way I thought. "Routine activity" of web surfing led me to the "enchanting" knowledge that our new island was a secret repository for hidden treasure, pirates gold, Templar riches and the Holy Grail.
"A routine activity will lead to an enchanting adventure". Not treasure hunting, but divorce and freedom. That's how the cookie crumbles.
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Sickertcode said:
Keith,
I’ve looked at your Google Earth image of Birch Island at the link you provided in the above post and I’ll say that the man-made impression looks more like a MITRE-SQUARE than it does a triangle. Take the coastline as the square. It’s a perfect right angle. With the triangle, it forms a perfect mitre-square symbol of the Masons visible from the air.
You really do have something there. Masons marking their territory, couldn’t resist using an island nearby with a right angle coastline.
M. Dericci said (to Keith):
Interesting to see that Birch Island is owned by CHRISTOPHER ONDAATJE, brother of Michael "English Patient" Ondaatje. The English Patient deals with archeologists in Egypt. Wasn’t the inscribed stone prophyry, which is found in Egypt, and was it really written in Egyptian-Coptic?....
P.S. I believe the treasure might be the so-called Morgenstern Inheritance. 36 tons of gold left in a secret location by sea captain Johannes Christoph Morgenstern. He died in 1762 with no heirs and his family has been trying to claim the Inheritance ever since and find out where it is located...
Jessica Melchiore, the antiques dealer turned Bloodline researcher from Vienna, read the comments and knew she recognized the author.
It was David. Both of them were from David; she was sure of it!
David Burton, the American thief she'd met in an international Alternate Reality Game. He was out of jail and was playing his little games, using different identities, Sickertcode and M. Dericci, different avatars. As always, he was looking for treasure wherever he could find it and he was always looking for an angle.
She wanted to see him again because he had been the one who had found out that the father of the secret, illegitimate Mary Jane Kelly bloodline was Adrianus Morgenstern.
She wanted to see him again and congratulate him for finding the father, and ask him if he did it for her.
But she needed to be careful because she had betrayed him when he was arrested, left him high and dry. She couldn't let him know it was her until they could meet face to face.
So she followed him online and looked for an opening which she eventually found on an Oak Island forum.
Someone with the username Ironside was on the forum talking about working with someone named "Keith", probably the same Keith whom Dave wrote to on the Grail Blog comments.
It was in the form of a Dear Diary. It was one of his little games.
Two could play at that game.
Oak Island Forum
Recommended Reading
My Davinci Code Diary
by Ironside
Entry #40
Marco and I went for Chinese food. All he could talk about was how the Chinese arrived in Cape Breton before Columbus. When I opened my fortune cookie, it said,
"A routine activity will lead to an enchanting adventure". Fat chance!
Entry #42
Marco bought that scrubby island without telling me. I only found out when a letter arrived today from a man named Kieth Nolan (name changed) who wanted to take soil samples on the island.
Marco says the island will make a great island getaway. I should give it a chance. Maybe this will be my "enchanting adventure".
Entry #43
The fortune cookie might have been right but not the way I thought. "Routine activity" of web surfing led me to the "enchanting" knowledge that our new island was a secret repository for hidden treasure, pirates gold, Templar riches and the Holy Grail.
"A routine activity will lead to an enchanting adventure". Not treasure hunting, but divorce and freedom. That's how the cookie crumbles.
Saponarolla- Posts : 50
Re: The Curse of Oak Island
Postby Ironside
Michael Ondaatje's brother Christopher owned the island... The English Patient is my favorite book and movie (watched it 20 times).
Postby GrailKnight7
Christopher Ondaatje used to live in my hometown of Toronto. He was a well known Bobsledder/Stockbroker who had a fascination with leopards. Last I heard he had moved to England and became a Knight (although not a fellow Grail Knight).
I always thought that Birch Island was owned by a mysterious woman named De Ricci?
Postby Ironside
Uhhhh?!
Marco is a De Ricci.
He's descended from De Riccis on his mother's side. I'm not joking. I know all about them. They were noble servants of Florentine royals but loyal to German kings. Marco's family were servants of Archduke Franz Joseph. One De Ricci married the son of Napoleon. Famous De Riccis are St. Catherine De Ricci who had stigmata and Bishop Scipione De Ricci who was turfed from the Bishop's college.
Convinced?
Six people have died looking for this treasure. According to legend, seven have to die. One more to go. I think I have a volunteer.
Take my husband....Please.
Postby GrailKnight7
I heard that she is actually descended from a De Ricci who accompanied Antonio Zeno & Henry Sinclair to Nova Scotia in 1398. Apparently she discovered some ancient parchments with Templar symbols that her 32xGreat Grandfather had hidden back in Venice and within the year she had purchased Birch Island. This was apparently a number of years ago. I wonder if Marco has spoken with her?
Postby Ironside
GK7, can you tell me where to find out more information on this Mrs. De Ricci? Is it I heard that she is actually descended from a De Ricci who accompanied Antonio Zeno & Henry Sinclair to Nova Scotia in 1398. Apparently she discovered some ancient parchments with Templar symbols that her 32xGreat Grandfather had hidden back in Venice and within the year she had purchased Birch Island. This was apparently a number of years ago. I wonder if Marco has spoken with her?
in Bradley's Grail Knights of America book?
Postby GrailKnight7
I believe it may have been a book about Francis Bacon, St. Germain and the ascended masters that I first read of Mrs. De Ricci. The book is called "Masters of the Mystical Rose: A History of the Grail Family" by Maree Moore. I have a copy. I can give it to you. Why don't we meet somewhere?.....
Michael Ondaatje's brother Christopher owned the island... The English Patient is my favorite book and movie (watched it 20 times).
Postby GrailKnight7
Christopher Ondaatje used to live in my hometown of Toronto. He was a well known Bobsledder/Stockbroker who had a fascination with leopards. Last I heard he had moved to England and became a Knight (although not a fellow Grail Knight).
I always thought that Birch Island was owned by a mysterious woman named De Ricci?
Postby Ironside
Uhhhh?!
Marco is a De Ricci.
He's descended from De Riccis on his mother's side. I'm not joking. I know all about them. They were noble servants of Florentine royals but loyal to German kings. Marco's family were servants of Archduke Franz Joseph. One De Ricci married the son of Napoleon. Famous De Riccis are St. Catherine De Ricci who had stigmata and Bishop Scipione De Ricci who was turfed from the Bishop's college.
Convinced?
Six people have died looking for this treasure. According to legend, seven have to die. One more to go. I think I have a volunteer.
Take my husband....Please.
Postby GrailKnight7
I heard that she is actually descended from a De Ricci who accompanied Antonio Zeno & Henry Sinclair to Nova Scotia in 1398. Apparently she discovered some ancient parchments with Templar symbols that her 32xGreat Grandfather had hidden back in Venice and within the year she had purchased Birch Island. This was apparently a number of years ago. I wonder if Marco has spoken with her?
Postby Ironside
GK7, can you tell me where to find out more information on this Mrs. De Ricci? Is it I heard that she is actually descended from a De Ricci who accompanied Antonio Zeno & Henry Sinclair to Nova Scotia in 1398. Apparently she discovered some ancient parchments with Templar symbols that her 32xGreat Grandfather had hidden back in Venice and within the year she had purchased Birch Island. This was apparently a number of years ago. I wonder if Marco has spoken with her?
in Bradley's Grail Knights of America book?
Postby GrailKnight7
I believe it may have been a book about Francis Bacon, St. Germain and the ascended masters that I first read of Mrs. De Ricci. The book is called "Masters of the Mystical Rose: A History of the Grail Family" by Maree Moore. I have a copy. I can give it to you. Why don't we meet somewhere?.....
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The Morningstar Inheritance
THE MORGANSTERN INHERITANCE
(Morningstar)
The Morganstern Inheritance of 1763...
"The full contents of this sensational affair is thus".
In the Leipzig Journal of the 9th of Feb. 1763 a col, according to which the Sea Captain John Christoph Morgenstern, who was born July 22, 1707 in Eppendorph (f) near Pdeson, Kingdom of Saxony and who died June 21, 1762 at the age of 55, leaving a fortune of 36 tons of gold.
The testament or will was laid before the Council of Frieburg on Dec. 7, 1815.
The pretending heirs and claimants hold and say, that all correspondence, as well as the place of deposit, and remains of this colossal fortune, as to insinuate that the government has cause to keep the whereabouts of the money and will or testaments secret. And this assertion has been created because the government did not show itself very willing or obliging to the claiments.
From the notes of Gertrude Anderson Margaret was born 3/15/1823.
(Morningstar)
The Morganstern Inheritance of 1763...
"The full contents of this sensational affair is thus".
In the Leipzig Journal of the 9th of Feb. 1763 a col, according to which the Sea Captain John Christoph Morgenstern, who was born July 22, 1707 in Eppendorph (f) near Pdeson, Kingdom of Saxony and who died June 21, 1762 at the age of 55, leaving a fortune of 36 tons of gold.
The testament or will was laid before the Council of Frieburg on Dec. 7, 1815.
The pretending heirs and claimants hold and say, that all correspondence, as well as the place of deposit, and remains of this colossal fortune, as to insinuate that the government has cause to keep the whereabouts of the money and will or testaments secret. And this assertion has been created because the government did not show itself very willing or obliging to the claiments.
From the notes of Gertrude Anderson Margaret was born 3/15/1823.
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Re: The Curse of Oak Island
On mysterious Oak Island, a strange group of men in Masonic regalia, gathered around a 230 foot deep, vertical shaft. Known as Borehole 10X, it went down 180 feet to bedrock, then through a smaller 27 inch casing to an artificial cavity. The shaft was flooded with sea water to the 80 foot mark because of the Curse of Oak Island which caused the treasure to sink whenever anyone got near it.
Lit torches were in the hands of all of the men except for one - the Grand Master who held up a long, tin box. He flipped open the embossed lid. The contents of the box were revealed to be several white neckties.
From the box, he lifted the top tie and held it up for all to see. It was a wide Victorian dress tie, and the bretheren could see the white silk was stained black–black with blood.
Everyone knew who the box of ties once belonged to.
It was the necktie box of Jack the Ripper containing the neckties he wore when he killed his 7 victims. The bloody tie the Grand Master was holding was marked with the number 6 on the back.
"Jack the Ripper wore this tie when he killed his 6th victim," he said. "This is the blood of victim number 6. Most people believe Catherine Eddowes was the 6th victim and that this is her blood and Mary Kelly's blood is on the 7th tie, the one we don't have, the one that was lost or stolen.
"In fact, Mary Kelly was the 6th victim. So this tie is the one with Mary Kelly's blood on it, the blood that is part of the famous bloodline of the Royal Conspiracy Theory.
"For over a century, rumours have persisted that Mary Kelly had a child with a Royal or a Freemason, and that Jack the Ripper was a Freemason conspiring with other Freemasons to kill Mary and the other prostitutes to protect the Brotherhood.
"Now we know the real truth from David Burton, the Ripperologist, who gave us this box. The father of Mary's child was her Jewish boyfriend, Adrianus Morgenstern!
"Let us now memorialize and cement this union forever in the minds of the public by sending this box with the blood of Mary Kelly to the bottom of Borehole 10X, next to the Money Pit containing what I believe to be the Morgenstern Inheritance."
He put the tie back in the box and closed the lid. Then he dropped the box into the hole. It fell 80 feet to the water and splashed. It landed right in the middle of the hole and sank toward the 27 inch casing and the secret treasure chamber.
The association was permanently established in a concrete way.
"Mary Jane Kelly and Morgenstern, the bright Morningstar, together forever!"
Lit torches were in the hands of all of the men except for one - the Grand Master who held up a long, tin box. He flipped open the embossed lid. The contents of the box were revealed to be several white neckties.
From the box, he lifted the top tie and held it up for all to see. It was a wide Victorian dress tie, and the bretheren could see the white silk was stained black–black with blood.
Everyone knew who the box of ties once belonged to.
It was the necktie box of Jack the Ripper containing the neckties he wore when he killed his 7 victims. The bloody tie the Grand Master was holding was marked with the number 6 on the back.
"Jack the Ripper wore this tie when he killed his 6th victim," he said. "This is the blood of victim number 6. Most people believe Catherine Eddowes was the 6th victim and that this is her blood and Mary Kelly's blood is on the 7th tie, the one we don't have, the one that was lost or stolen.
"In fact, Mary Kelly was the 6th victim. So this tie is the one with Mary Kelly's blood on it, the blood that is part of the famous bloodline of the Royal Conspiracy Theory.
"For over a century, rumours have persisted that Mary Kelly had a child with a Royal or a Freemason, and that Jack the Ripper was a Freemason conspiring with other Freemasons to kill Mary and the other prostitutes to protect the Brotherhood.
"Now we know the real truth from David Burton, the Ripperologist, who gave us this box. The father of Mary's child was her Jewish boyfriend, Adrianus Morgenstern!
"Let us now memorialize and cement this union forever in the minds of the public by sending this box with the blood of Mary Kelly to the bottom of Borehole 10X, next to the Money Pit containing what I believe to be the Morgenstern Inheritance."
He put the tie back in the box and closed the lid. Then he dropped the box into the hole. It fell 80 feet to the water and splashed. It landed right in the middle of the hole and sank toward the 27 inch casing and the secret treasure chamber.
The association was permanently established in a concrete way.
"Mary Jane Kelly and Morgenstern, the bright Morningstar, together forever!"
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Re: The Curse of Oak Island
The Finale of The Curse of Oak Island is scheduled for this Sunday at 10 on History Channel.
Secrets and Revelations, season 3, episode 13
Time for the Truth
Secrets and Revelations, season 3, episode 13
Time for the Truth
Saponarolla- Posts : 50
Re: The Curse of Oak Island
I was in Nova Scotia and heard about a man who shot a cougar and had pictures to prove it but he wouldn't show it to any strangers. The Eastern puma is supposedly extinct up there so finding one would be like finding a cryptid.
I was told he was afraid of the law. Anyway, he kept it a secret from the world. He didn't feel the need to brag, not even anonymously on the web where he should feel safe. Nova Scotians seem to be that way so it's a good bet the treasure was already found and they didn't tell anyone.
Hopefully, it was just a decoy treasure and the real treasure is still down there.
I was told he was afraid of the law. Anyway, he kept it a secret from the world. He didn't feel the need to brag, not even anonymously on the web where he should feel safe. Nova Scotians seem to be that way so it's a good bet the treasure was already found and they didn't tell anyone.
Hopefully, it was just a decoy treasure and the real treasure is still down there.
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Re: The Curse of Oak Island
I saw the finale. The highlight was the McGinnis sisters showing up with a gold cross and saying that their ancestor, Daniel McGinnis, and his two friends, who first found the money pit, discovered three treasure chests and each took one.
If this is true, they must have thought it was a decoy treasure because they kept on digging afterward.
Now we have to wait until next year for season four for any resolution to the mystery.
If this is true, they must have thought it was a decoy treasure because they kept on digging afterward.
Now we have to wait until next year for season four for any resolution to the mystery.
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Re: The Curse of Oak Island
Looks like the Lagina brothers found a golden object embedded in the wall of the money pit chamber. It looks very much to me like a menora.
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Re: The Curse of Oak Island
Everyone on the show is coming around to the idea that the Oak Island Pit hides the original manuscripts of Shakespeare. That theory has been around since 1939. It looked like a crazy theory but then it turns out that the Shakespeare Authorship Question/Conspiracy Theory is actually true. The discovery of broken Elizabethan jars once filled with mercury (for no other use than for preserving documents as the gold ore in the area was pure), pieces of book binding, paper and leather and boards for regal and/or religious books, and scientific dating of human bones and other objects all dating to the 17th Century all point to this theory being the correct one.
It even explains the curse that includes red eyed dogs and sasquatches, if you understand the dynamics of that vis-a-vis Francis Bacon, the illegitimate son of Elizabeth I, being revealed as the real Shakespeare. With an ordinary pirate treasure, it would be harder to explain.
Unfortunately, tens of millions are required to properly freeze the ground, bypassing the flood tunnel booby trap, and properly excavate the vault of manuscripts without compromising the vault and destroying the documents, if that hasn't happened already.
It even explains the curse that includes red eyed dogs and sasquatches, if you understand the dynamics of that vis-a-vis Francis Bacon, the illegitimate son of Elizabeth I, being revealed as the real Shakespeare. With an ordinary pirate treasure, it would be harder to explain.
Unfortunately, tens of millions are required to properly freeze the ground, bypassing the flood tunnel booby trap, and properly excavate the vault of manuscripts without compromising the vault and destroying the documents, if that hasn't happened already.
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Re: The Curse of Oak Island
Yes, Karen, thank you.
I'm one who didn't believe or had any interest in Conspiracy theories. No one can tell me otherwise now.
It's still hard for me to believe that Shakespeare's works weren't written by a common man but by Queen Elizabeth 1's son, maybe with a little help from his friends.
I'm one who didn't believe or had any interest in Conspiracy theories. No one can tell me otherwise now.
It's still hard for me to believe that Shakespeare's works weren't written by a common man but by Queen Elizabeth 1's son, maybe with a little help from his friends.
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